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(CNN) โ€” When schools in Kentucky closed for several days last month due to severe flooding, students suddenly began showing up at the Bullitt County Public Library.

They had come for the internet.

To pay for those high-speed connections that some students lacked at home, the county library โ€“ like many others across the country โ€“ has relied on a federal program that is now poised for a major overhaul courtesy of the Supreme Court.

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Tara O'Hagan, executive director of the Bullitt County Public Library in Kentucky, relies on the E-Rate program to pay for internet access at several branches.

โ€œInternet access is a luxury,โ€ said Tara Oโ€™Hagan, the libraryโ€™s executive director. โ€œIn Bullitt County, thereโ€™s literally a digital divide.โ€

The case, which the justices will hear on Wednesday, could wind up costing libraries, schools and hospitals billions.

At a time when nearly 10% of US households do not have access to broadband internet, one of the leading programs to bridge the divide has been caught up in a broader and decades old separation-of-powers fight over federal agencies. Those cases have found purchase on the 6-3 conservative Supreme Court, which has repeatedly limited the ability of the federal bureaucracy to act absent congressional approval.

A conservative โ€œconsumer awareness groupโ€ is challenging the $7 billion Universal Service Fund, which Congress created in 1996 to offset the cost of phone and internet service for low-income Americans.

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Chase Christensen, the superintendent of the Sheridan County School District #3 in Wyoming, told CNN that the E-Rate program helps his district pay for broadband internet for students.

Itโ€™s a system that critics say is a โ€œbureaucratโ€™s dreamโ€ and a โ€œnightmare for the Constitution.โ€

To pay for programs like E-Rate, which Oโ€™Haganโ€™s library relies on, Congress requires telecommunications companies to chip billions of dollars into the fund, a cost that is usually passed on to customers. Critics say the system is an indirect tax levied by the Federal Communications Commission and violates whatโ€™s known as the nondelegation doctrine โ€“ the idea that Congress canโ€™t delegate its power to federal agencies.

Making matters worse, those critics say, the FCC essentially outsources the administration of the fund to a private company.

โ€œNobody wants to take responsibility for taxes,โ€ said Trent McCotter, an attorney at the Boyden Gray law firm who will argue against the government on Wednesday.

Blitzer asks former Justice Stephen Breyer about John Roberts' rebuke of Trump
Blitzer asks former Justice Stephen Breyer about John Roberts' rebuke of Trump

Paying for the program through regular congressional spending bills, McCotter told CNN, would be better for schools and libraries in the long run.

โ€œThe Universal Service Fund is facing a widely recognized death spiral of ever-higher rates, with dwindling returns โ€“ which will soon implode the program,โ€ he said.

But others say pervasive gridlock on Capitol Hill would jeopardize programs like E-Rate and Lifeline that connect millions of Americans to the internet.

โ€œThe impact would be most pronounced and quickest on low-income folks,โ€ said John Heitmann, counsel for the National Lifeline Association, a group that represents companies that connect about 8 million households with phone and internet service subsidized through the fund. โ€œThey donโ€™t have the megaphone that corporations have.โ€

A decision is expected by the end of June.

Curbing the โ€˜administrative stateโ€™

The Supreme Courtโ€™s conservative majority has in recent years hacked away at the power of federal agencies to act on their own, most recently in a 6-3 decision last year that overturned a 1984 precedent requiring courts to give deference to agency regulations in many circumstances. Federal agency power expanded dramatically after the New Deal, Chief Justice John Roberts wrote for the majority, and courts had veered too far from exercising independent judgment about whether an agency had violated the law.

That decision came on the heels of a blockbuster ruling in 2022 that embraced the so-called major questions doctrine, which bars an agency from issuing a rule with major economic or political impacts absent explicit approval from Congress.

The โ€œnondelegation doctrine,โ€ which blocks Congress from delegating its authority to agencies โ€“ and may also bar agencies from delegating their authority to private entities โ€“ is the next target in that campaign.

The high court has not invoked the nondelegation doctrine since the 1930s. It has instead since permitted Congress to delegate authority under certain conditions.

But conservative groups in particular have argued the permissiveness has perverted separation-of-powers principles, allowing government agencies to take the lead on difficult choices they say should be left to elected lawmakers.

That argument has drawn nods of approval from at least four conservative justices.

Many of the recent appeals dealing with the power of federal agencies have taken on a political sheen, with conservative groups challenging policies embraced by the Biden administration โ€“ including student loan forgiveness, environmental regulations and Covid-19 restrictions.

But the politics of this case, FCC v. Consumersโ€™ Research, are more complicated.

The Biden administration appealed an adverse ruling from the 5th US Circuit Court of Appeals and the Trump administration hasnโ€™t shown any sign of deviating course. The Justice Department warned the court in a brief this month that โ€œCongress has relied on this courtโ€™s longstandingโ€ approach to the issue to enact legislation authorizing agencies to police unfair competition, oversee the securities industry and ensure the safety of food and drugs.

Some of the programs funded through the Universal Service Fund have faced controversies and even some of those advocating for them acknowledge that McCotter has a point about the fundโ€™s long-term viability.

Still those advocates are hopeful that President Donald Trump wonโ€™t try to undermine the programs, which have a significant impact in rural communities that supported his reelection.

When Trump announced a new FCC commissioner in a social media post in January, he noted that the agency would work to cut regulations, protect free speech and โ€œensure every American has access to affordable and fast internet.โ€ The remark, though unspecific, was not lost on advocates hoping to bolster the programs.

And Vice President JD Vance, a former senator from Ohio, was a leading supporter of a similar initiative in Congress, the Affordable Connectivity Program.

That program, though, serves as a cautionary tale for advocates for expanding digital access: Congress let its funding lapse last year.

Disconnecting rural communities?

Librarians and school officials who spoke with CNN are focused on the impact โ€“ and their budgets โ€“ far more than the politics.

Oโ€™Haganโ€™s said the library spends about $4,000 a month to provide internet to its five branches. Thatโ€™s an 80% reduction on what it would normally cost โ€“ a difference that is covered by E-Rate, one of the programs at issue in the case.

โ€œWithout that support, we wouldnโ€™t be able to provide internet access to our most susceptible community members,โ€ she said.

Chase Christensen, superintendent of the Sheridan County School District #3 in northern Wyoming, also relies on an E-Rate program, which pays about 20% of the cost of managing the schoolโ€™s internal internet network.

โ€œItโ€™s picking up the big chunk and making it a little bit more affordable,โ€ Christensen said. โ€œWe can spend those dollars in the classroom instead of spending them on network infrastructure.โ€

The E-Rate program provided about $3.26 billion in discounts for interconnectivity in 2024, according to a brief supporting the FCC filed by the School Superintendents Association, the National Association of Secondary School Principals and other groups. More than 106,000 schools benefited over the past two years. Sometimes schools use those resources in less than obvious ways.

โ€œA lot of them are using the internet to power security systems or theyโ€™re using their internet to control the environment,โ€ said Noelle Ellerson Ng, with the superintendentโ€™s group. โ€œThatโ€™s not even about teaching and learning. Itโ€™s just about getting kids to schools and getting schools ready for kids.โ€

Danielle Perry, chief compliance officer for a California-based company called TruConnect, said the Lifeline program helps low-income Americans search for better jobs, attend telehealth visits and stay connected with family โ€“ in other words, the same things everyone uses the internet for.

โ€œItโ€™s something that most of us take for granted โ€“ never think about it,โ€ she said. โ€œBut these are people who just desperately need this program.โ€

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