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Survivors of past air disasters offer support after Toronto crash

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February 21, 2025

CONCORD, N.H. (AP) โ€” Sad. Happy. Anguished. Guilty.

Denise Lockie of Charlotte, North Carolina, has felt all of the above in recent weeks, as a string of major aviation accidents brought back memories of crash-landing in an icy river in New York. Sixteen years after the โ€œMiracle on the Hudson,โ€ she and other aviation disaster survivors stand ready to support those who are just emerging from their ordeal in Toronto on Monday.

โ€œRight now, they havenโ€™t even processed what has happened,โ€ Lockie said of the 80 passengers and crew members who survived when Delta Air Lines flight 4819 crashed and flipped over at Pearson International Airport.

Survivors of past air disasters offer support after Toronto crash
Toronto Delta Crash

There were no survivors when a commercial jetliner and an Army helicopter collided in Washington, D.C., on Jan. 29, a medical transportation plane crashed in Philadelphia on Jan. 31 and a plane carrying 10 people crashed in Alaska on Feb. 6. But in Toronto, not only did no one die, the last of the injured were released from the hospital Thursday.

โ€œItโ€™s amazing,โ€ said passenger Peter Carlson, who spoke at a conference less than 48 hours after the crash. Though he managed to crack a joke โ€” โ€œNothing beats a good road trip besides an airplane crashโ€ โ€” he later admitted struggling to leave his hotel room.

โ€œI was quite emotional about this whole thing and just really want to be home,โ€ said Carlson, the newest member of what retired flight attendant Sandy Purl calls a โ€œsad sorority and fraternity.โ€

A history of survival

Monday's crash in Toronto wasn't the first time lives were spared during a major aviation disaster there: In 2005, all 309 people on board Air France Flight 358 survived after it overran the runway and burst into flames.

Survivors of past air disasters offer support after Toronto crash
Alaska Plane Crash Victims

In 1989, 184 of the 296 people aboard United Airlines Flight 232 survived a crash in Sioux City, Iowa. And in 1977, Purl was one of 22 survivors when Southern Airways Flight 242 lost both engines in a hailstorm and crashed in New Hope, Georgia. Sixty-three people aboard the plane died, along with nine on the ground.

โ€œImmediately you have a euphoria because you survived,โ€ said Purl, now 72. โ€œBut then you go into whatโ€™s known as psychic numbing, which protects you from everything thatโ€™s in your brain that you canโ€™t bring to the surface for a long time down the road, if ever.โ€

For more than a year after the crash, Purlโ€™s strategy was to flee whenever anyone mentioned the disaster. Eventually she was admitted to a psychiatric hospital where she told the staff, โ€œI canโ€™t stop crying.โ€

A kindly doctor took her hand and reassured her what she was feeling was real.

Survivors of past air disasters offer support after Toronto crash
Toronto Delta Crash Past Survivors

โ€œFor the first time, a year and a half later, people werenโ€™t saying, โ€˜You look so good! Get on with your life, youโ€™re so lucky to be alive,โ€™โ€ she said. โ€œFor the first time, someone gave me permission to feel and to cry and to feel safe.โ€

Survivors stick together

Both Purl and Lockie are members of the National Air Disaster Alliance, which was created in 1995 to support survivors and victimsโ€™ families and advocate for safety improvements.

In 2009, the group published an open letter to the 155 passengers and crew members of US Airways flight 1549 after Captain Chesley โ€œSullyโ€ Sullenberger famously landed the plane in the Hudson River after a bird strike disabled both engines.

โ€œWe are grateful and thankful that all survived, but survivors need time to process and comprehend what it means to be an air crash survivor,โ€ the group wrote, encouraging survivors to rest, retreat, rely on others and reserve their rights to privacy.

Survivors of past air disasters offer support after Toronto crash
Toronto Delta Crash Past Survivors

Paying it forward, Lockie is offering similar advice to those aboard the Toronto flight. She described being in a fog for about eight weeks after her crash, struggling to keep up with her corporate job as her injuries healed and being beset by nightmares and panic attacks.

โ€œAbsolutely number one as far as Iโ€™m concerned is taking to somebody who can understand,โ€ she said. โ€œI think Delta is a fantastic airline and Iโ€™m sure their care team is fantastic, but then again, how many people on those care teams have actually been involved in an aviation incident?โ€

Friends and family might urge survivors to move on with their lives, she said, but โ€œit just doesnโ€™t work that way.โ€

โ€œYou might have fears that come out later on, and you really have to be able to deal with those,โ€ she said. โ€œSo my recommendation is to take all the help you can possibly take.โ€

It doesn't take much to trigger memories

Survivors of past air disasters offer support after Toronto crash
Toronto Delta Crash Past Survivors

While Lockie said her experience hasnโ€™t deterred her from flying often, it has shaped her behavior in other ways. When she enters a store or restaurant, for example, she always checks for the fastest way out.

โ€œYou have to be able to calm yourself if thereโ€™s something that triggers your emotional aptitude,โ€ she said.

Purl, who returned to work as a flight attendant four years after the crash, said she can be triggered by the smell of gasoline or seeing news footage of other crashes.

โ€œI look at the TV and I see my crash,โ€ she said. โ€œI smell it. I taste it. I see the black smoke and I canโ€™t get through it. I feel the heat of the fire.โ€

Survivors of past air disasters offer support after Toronto crash
Toronto Delta Crash Past Survivors

The Toronto survivors may find their experience exacerbates underlying traumas, she said.

โ€œLike the layers of an onion, you pull one back and thereโ€™s another layer underneath,โ€ she said.

Her advice: Live one day at a time, seek out people who offer unconditional love and talk, talk, talk.

โ€œAnd then find a way to make a difference as a result,โ€ she said.

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